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FAH GPU Tracker V2

FAH GPU Tracker V2 is a Folding@Home Client tracking and control program


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    Post by jedi95 Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:05 am

    Since the V7 client has been released, I figure I should clarify my plans for the Tracker. First of all, the Tracker as-is will not support the V7 client because it is COMPLETELY different in terms of is interfaces with 3rd party software. That said, supporting the V7 client IS possible.

    However, due to the massive changes that it requires, it would require a near-complete rewrite of the Tracker. My plan as of now is to continue to support the current version of the Tracker with bugfixes/minor changes as long as the V6 clients are supported by Stanford. This does mean that there will be very few if any new features added though.

    Now to support the V7 client, I plan on doing a complete rewrite of the Tracker if there is enough interest from users. That said, below is a list of some ideas I have for the new version.

    1. Client shutdowns between WUs no longer needed
    Thanks to the ability to reconfig the V7 client on-the-fly, the current -oneunit on all clients is not needed to ensure that the clients can be reconfigured between WUs. With V7 it's possible to reconfigure the client while it's running without even restarting it!

    2. Per-client name/team/passkey options
    This option is again thanks to the simplicity of the V7 client. Since all options can be modified on-the-fly without restarting the client the Tracker can just directly apply settings per-client without any of the overhead of using -configonly clients to change client.cfg.

    3. Built-in EOC stats feed
    This would just be a simple display like with HFM.NET. It would show your 24 hour PPD average, points today, points last 24 hours, ect. This data would also be exported in status.xml for live signatures. There would also be an option to get your EOCID automatically from your name/team combination, similar to the "Get EOCID" option in the current Tracker config.

    4. Hardware monitoring
    This is mainly to allow for things like "shutdown GPU0 if temp > X," but I think many users would find it convienient to be able to monitor everything in one place. Hardware monitoring would of course have an enable/disable option if the user prefers to use some other software for this.
    Additionally, if Stanford makes it possible to control the FahCore idle time without client restarts it could be used for "Smart Heat Control." Using this you can set a maximum desired temp, and the Tracker will throttle the client as needed to prevent it from exceeding this temp.

    5. Leave clients running on Tracker exit
    This option would allow you to close the Tracker to update it or simply conserve system resources, without exiting the FAH clients. This is again made possibly by the new interface provided by the V7 client. This isn't possible with the V6 clients because the Tracker needs to watch for client process exit events. This would of course be user-configurable, so users could retain the current behavior of the Tracker stopping all clients before exiting. This also leads me to the next feature:

    6. Remote client control
    Pretty self explanatory, this option would allow you to control FAH clients on other computers remotely using the Tracker's interface. This is again made possible by the new interface in the V7 clients. You could also use a Tracker on any computer to control any client, there would be no predefined "master" Tracker that other instances have to connect to.

    Also, remote client control should be possible from a smartphone app. I am not a smartphone app developer, but I figured I would point out that this is a possibility with the V7 client.

    7. Improved Gaming Pause
    Currently Gaming Pause uses a list of executables defined in Games.txt to detect running games. The downside of this method is that obscure and new games will not be detected in some cases. The plan would be to add DirectX/OpenGL detection as an option, in addition to the current Games.txt method. The user would have the option to pick which method is used. Additionally, the new V7 interface allows clients to be paused without exiting the client. With the V6 clients the only option was to exit the client and restart it.

    8. Better initial setup process
    The new setup process would walk users through setting up a name/team/passkey, then list all the hardware in the system capable of running FAH. The user can simply select what they want to fold with, and the default settings that work with that configuration will be used. GPU detection would also be moved to OpenCL, in order to accurately detect both ATI and Nvidia cards.

    9. Proper Installer
    This redesigned Tracker would also be available as an installer, in addition to the current portable exe. I have seen countless users set up the Tracker by running it straight out of the .zip archive without extracting it. This results in the Tracker setting itself up in a temporary folder that gets purged on reboot. This leaves the user wondering where it went, and is overall just confusing for less tech-savvy users. The installer version would solve this problem. Of course the Tracker would also be available as a standalone exe for those who prefer the portable setup.

    10. Open Source
    If I do end up redesigning the Tracker to support V7 and include these features, I will release it as an open source project once the basic framework is complete. I have received several requests asking about the Tracker's source code. The main reasons I never made it open source were:

    1. It was a way for me to learn programming, so I wanted to overcome challenges on my own.
    2. A large portion of my code would be confusing to other developers not familiar with how the Tracker works as a whole

    But, since the Tracker has become widely used since its initial release a year ago, I think the FAH community would benefit if other developers could contribute to the project.

    If you are a developer and want to contribute to the new version of the Tracker please read this:
    https://fahtracker.forumotion.com/t236-looking-for-developers#921
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    Post by g3412 Wed Jun 08, 2011 2:58 am

    I can't believe that I'm the first one responding to this topic, however being the noob, what you are suggesting sounds really good! I look forward to seeing what you have to offer!
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    Post by LBSfolding Mon Jul 04, 2011 4:44 am

    This sounds invaluable, it would make managing a farm much easier!

    Please make it happen.
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    Post by snowbird48 Wed Jul 20, 2011 2:25 pm

    3.52 has and continues to work well. Look forward to seeing the new version. Any chance there will be a Linux version as well?
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    Post by jarhead Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:24 am

    yes, please build new software! gpu tracker has been invaluable!
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    Post by DeathCom Tue Jan 17, 2012 6:25 am

    A lot of the features you listed here were precisely the features I would really like to see. Your first improvement about setting -oneunit was my biggest suggestion. It's the best thing about the F@H GPU GUI client, just set finish after current WU. I would suggest adding a quick and easy option to set X number of WUs to complete before shutdown. Something that can bet set right from the front page of the app, no menus to go through.

    Excellent work on this most helpful tool so far though!
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    Post by edk Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:53 am

    I think I speak for a lot of regular users when I say that those suggestions are great however we are all first and foremost great full for being able to run a Tracker that supports V7 clients, the suggested options are the icing on the cake and can even come with later updated IMHO.

    And yes I know I'm posting over a year later then OP, and btw any updates on tracker for V7?

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